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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^  Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:44 am |
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^^ I have to say though, Naruto's fight with Pain was a team match not one on one. Nagato has the six Pains and Naruto has Shima, Fakusaku, Gamabunta, Gamakichi and is that Gamatatsu? So it's more on a 6 VS 5 but Naruto does the main main offensive and the others were just back ups. But I guess Naruto can be able to fight Sasuke since Itachi gave him power which was meant to protect both Konoha and Sasuke so he might be able handle him foot on foot. If Sasuke has Susanoo and Naruto has the Demon Fox (though he can't summon it out like Susanoo coz it'll just free itself.  ). If Sasuke continues to use his Mangekyo then he'll just end up fighting Naruto "blind".
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:55 pm |
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krishna.kumar wrote:
who has steadly progressed to surpass him after perfecting the Sage Mode...
Naruto never surpassed Sasuke.He becomethe same level MS less Sasuke.Now when Sasuke got Susanoo,Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi he become pretty much stronger then Naruto. I said in other topic: Zetsu: It seems he became awesomely powerful. It's possible that he's stronger than Sasuke. As Zetsu’s words implies, Naruto MIGHT be stronger than Sasuke. But taken that into context, isn’t he comparing a MS less Sasuke to a SM Naruto? So Zetsu thinks a SM Naruto might possibly be stronger than a MS less Sasuke? What would he thinks of Sasuke once he knows that he has all of his brother MS jutsus and that he awoke his new MS power, which is a power strong enough to destroy Konoha?Zetsu was present when Sasuke fought Itachi, but he wasn’t present when Sasuke showed Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi or a glimpse of his new power against Hachibi, as he was still in the cave. In Naruto’s case, Zetsu was present in the Nagato vs Naruto fight. If we remember, Zetsu showed interest in Pain vs Naruto.So yes Naruto Might be stronger than Sasuke without MS. When Sasuke find out that Naruto was “stronger” than him guess what,? he said he didn’t care. Why did he say that? Was it because he knows he has a power that NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT, and wouldn’t believe what other people thought of his strength? The answer lies with Itachi, who knows the power of the MS. Naruto can’t defeat Sasuke with his own power. People say that Naruto would hold back against Sasuke, but we all know that Naruto has never held back on anyone, not even with women lol Besides, you have Naruto saying he wants fight Sasuke and Itachi gave Naruto a power for a reason, to defeat Sasuke. Which leads to believe that Itachi didn’t believe that Naruto had the power to stop Sasuke on his own. krishna.kumar wrote: 1) Orochimaru was already suffering when he attacked him. Genyumara's body was rejecting him so he was in weakened state
2) Itachi had decided the outcome of the battle before it even started. If you see, Zetsu was surprised how Itachi lost .. and moreover Itachi was suffering from a terminal illness. Hence its biased too.
3) Against Killer Bee, he didnt do it one on one... whole of Taka ganged up on him and still he was not able to beat him convincingly... He let Bee escape... and Kisame took on Bee one on one and he defeated Bee too... He was overwhelmed when Raikage joined the party...
4) Against Danzou, he was frequently helped by Karin, healed by Karin once and then he had the power to defeat Danzou. If Danzou would hav used Shisui's eye then Sasuke was a gonner... Danzou was not ready for the battle this but Sasuke was...
5) I have to agree that Sasuke did extremely well in Five Kage Summit... He fended off Killa E and Gaara well... i.e. he was capable of handling atleast 2 Kages... and not all 5 on himself... as he was ultimately battered by Mizukage and Onoki... I can I agree about Oro and Itachi but he pushed Itachi like none else.he broke out Tsukuyomi for first time and Itachi used Susanoo for first time Against Killer Bee Sasuke didnt recover from itachi fight. Against Danzou:I don't think Danzou holding back chakra or his Shisui eye recharging mattered much.is big gun was Izanagi, and Sasuke figured it out and tricked him in the end. Seriously. Whats Naruto going to do against Sasuke. Have all konoha fight him. While he preps and gains knowelge on him. Then have toad army he didnt even summon himself help fight Sasuke. While having katsuya on his shoulder giving him ingame advice and coaching. Then have Hinata save his ass. Then have Kyuubi come out. The nhave minato out of no where. save his ass. Then Beat Sasuek jtusu do to him being exaughsted from the previous fight .Then talk him to death. All while Sasuke was trying to capture Naruto., Was Naruto is bloodlusted. He can beat him if he has halp from from all Konoha's shinobi. Naruto has NOT WON A FIGHT WITHOUT BEING SAVED SINCE PART 2 STARTED. Better yet, he has not even won a fight by himself. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/259/17/http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/260/02/http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/309/14/http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/340/09/http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/440/15/He has prep time and knowledge on all his opponents, none of his opponents were at full health. Sasuke is defenatly the strongest charachter a live(I'm not count Tobi and Zetsu.) 1.Sasuke 2.Killer Bee 3.Raikage kyubi wrote: is that image from your signature the battle betwen the 1st hokage and madara?? yes _________________ ------- "Only a Sharingan user with the same blood as me can defeat me."
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:48 am |
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sasuke wrote: I don't think Danzou holding back chakra or his Shisui eye recharging mattered much.is big gun was Izanagi, and Sasuke figured it out and tricked him in the end. Nop. Its not like that. Danzo's main gun was Shisui's eyes and not Izanagi. Izanagi was a last ditch effort. He could control anyone using his eye like a puppet... even someone like Madara ( as Danzo wanted to use it on Madara ). And, moreover Madara clearly specified that Izanagi was just a means to let Shisui's eye recharge. Moreover, Madara was maniac-like for obtaining Shisui's eyes, which further gives an impetus to the special powers those eyes had. We havn't seen the real powers of Shisui's eyes( or rather cannot see ). Danzo can take control of Sasuke himself during the fight and turn the tables in a matter of moments. So much is the eyes' power, can't underestimate that. And, moreover, Sasuke didnt figure out Izanagi. Karin did it and let Sasuke know. They both were a team where Karin was the brain and Sasuke the brawn. The only two smart moves that I appreciated of Sasuke were "firing a fireball in the mouth of Baki" and the "Genjutsu on Danzo at the very end". Your comment on Naruto is correct any way. He hasn't won a single battle single handedly, but "SM + Nine Tails' limitness chakra + Will of Fire" combo does make him nearly invincible now. I would rather say EMS in Sasuke would be much much more powerful than Naruto. But, just MS is "as powerful as" or "slightly less powerful than" SM + NineTails... _________________ Regards, krishna.kumar
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:51 pm |
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Karin never told Sasuke how Izanagi worked, Sasuke figured that out all on his own. But yes you're right, Shisuis eye was the big gun, without it, Danzo died 10 times, plus the final one, so it's kinda weird you only saw 2 smart moves on Sasukes account, Danzo wouldn't want to waste even 1 Izanagi, because he is a tactician, but he did because he knew he would die otherwise, he was trying to finish as quickly as possible, and yet, he died 10 times before the Shisui eye was ready.
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:07 am |
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:05 am |
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Karin did figure it out on her own, but sasuke had figured it out long before her. When she was trying to tell him the secret sasuke interrupted her and said it himself. Also if you go to page 13 tobi even says that sasuke must have figured it out and was forcing danzo to keep using his eyes by attacking with his strongest susanoo.
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:41 am |
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These are just MY opinions:(excluding any kages)
1. Itachi(when he fights at his fullest and doesn't hold anything back!!!)
2. Sasuke
3. Naruto
_________________ "Sasuke and Naruto were always in the lead! Now it's my turn to take the lead, and all of you can watch me from the background!"
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:49 am |
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I agree with Sakura here.
_________________  Run... Run, and cling to life.
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:35 am |
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Uchiha wrote: I agree with Sakura here. I really do believe Sasuke is better than Naruto..It's just that Naruto gets a lot of special training _________________ "Sasuke and Naruto were always in the lead! Now it's my turn to take the lead, and all of you can watch me from the background!"
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:24 pm |
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krishna.kumar wrote: Felatio wrote: Karin never told Sasuke how Izanagi worked, Sasuke figured that out all on his own. Sorry my friend. Its Karin who found out the secret of Izanagi... http://manga.naruto-tv.com/naruto/479/10http://manga.naruto-tv.com/naruto/479/11http://manga.naruto-tv.com/naruto/479/12Please go thru these URL's. You will find Karin making all the analysis and then telling Saskuke about it in the end. Sasuke just made a great job fighting Danzo on himself but the secret of Izanagi was decoded and told by Karin. where on those URLs do you see Karin telling Sasuke how it works? Did you ignore Sasukes speech on purpose or something ?  "Looks like that Jutsu will end... Once all 10 eyes close." - This isn't told by Karin, it's Sasukes line.
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:47 pm |
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Sakura wrote: Uchiha wrote: I agree with Sakura here. I really do believe Sasuke is better than Naruto..It's just that Naruto gets a lot of special training Sasuke got some pretty special training also. _________________
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:04 am |
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Hitori wrote: Sakura wrote: Uchiha wrote: I agree with Sakura here. I really do believe Sasuke is better than Naruto..It's just that Naruto gets a lot of special training Sasuke got some pretty special training also. he did..with Oro, like Naruto did w/ Jiraiya..but Naruto also did get more training in Mt. Myoboku _________________ "Sasuke and Naruto were always in the lead! Now it's my turn to take the lead, and all of you can watch me from the background!"
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:39 pm |
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Yup. They are pretty even with the training.
Sasuke also got special training with Kakashi before the Chuunin exam.
_________________ How can I ever be Hokage, if I can't even save one friend?
Isn't that right Sasuke?
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:28 pm |
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Indeed.
But Sasuke is "A natural genius" according to Kakashi, and about Naruto...
"The Number-One-Hyper-Active-Knucklheaded-Ninja!"
Naruto got special training from Kakashi when master Wind manipulation, and creating Rasen-Shurikan.
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:42 pm |
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Felatio wrote: Sage Mode may be more resistant, but by no means it should be imune. Sage Mode is a balance of all the Chakra, and since the Genjutsu disrupts normal chakra flow, it might even crash Sage Mode all together with an illusion. Sage Mode is an ability grasped by people with a big chakra pool and chakra control, this is good to break regular genjutsu, as i said, but Sharingans Genjutsu are a blood lined ability, and these blood lined abilities seem to have no actual limit in their power and effect (as far as we've seen). Sasuke will still probably develop his eyes to the Ethernal Mangekyou Sharingan, remember that  There's other points besides Gejutsu, how is Naruto gonna dodge Amaterasu and/or Kirin? Raikage used Body Flicker Jutsu and, well, sacrificed an hand to do this, but Naruto doesn't use such a jutsu, Danzo was caught and killed, also reborn, he is 72 year old geezer with enough knowledge about everything, still, he had to use Izanagi. Although this battle won't happen in a while, it's all just theory and speculation "Ethernal Mangekyou Sharingan" Etheral what..?  What is it? Even better MS?  
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:53 pm |
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Lol it's Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. The Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan grants the user eternal life, as it's name suggests. It also allows mastery over space/time ninjutsu. It is obtained by replacing ones Master-level Mangekyou Sharingan eyes with 1st-level Mangekyou Sharingan eyes. Madara Uchiha is the only person with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan eyes in the series, so far. He is planning to combine the tailed beasts together into a super-beast, the ten tailed Juubi. He will then seal the Juubi into himself, controlling it with his Sharingan eyes, like he did to the Kyuubi. Then, he will "project" his eyes onto the moon, putting everyone into an eternal Tsukiyomi, creating an utopian society. With the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Madara is able to bend space/time, and transport people into different "mirror" dimensions, which are filled with rectangular boxes. He is also able to teleport to any location, although canon doesn't state how. He can make himself intangible to defend himself, but must turn tangible to attack. This is seen in the latest chapter (Chapter 475) when Torune, a root member (also an Aburame clan member), attacks and hurts Madara with his cell eating bugs, but then gets transported to another dimension, along with his partner. _________________ -------"Only a Sharingan user with the same blood as me can defeat me."
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:20 am |
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sasuke_ wrote: Lol it's Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. The Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan grants the user eternal life, as it's name suggests. It also allows mastery over space/time ninjutsu. It is obtained by replacing ones Master-level Mangekyou Sharingan eyes with 1st-level Mangekyou Sharingan eyes. Madara Uchiha is the only person with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan eyes in the series, so far. He is planning to combine the tailed beasts together into a super-beast, the ten tailed Juubi. He will then seal the Juubi into himself, controlling it with his Sharingan eyes, like he did to the Kyuubi. Then, he will "project" his eyes onto the moon, putting everyone into an eternal Tsukiyomi, creating an utopian society. With the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Madara is able to bend space/time, and transport people into different "mirror" dimensions, which are filled with rectangular boxes. He is also able to teleport to any location, although canon doesn't state how. He can make himself intangible to defend himself, but must turn tangible to attack. This is seen in the latest chapter (Chapter 475) when Torune, a root member (also an Aburame clan member), attacks and hurts Madara with his cell eating bugs, but then gets transported to another dimension, along with his partner. I thought, EMS gives eternal eyesight. ETERNAL LIFE !!... Are you sure about that. ? _________________ Regards, krishna.kumar
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:21 am |
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Well Madara is 120 years old and he is stil a live so I guess that EMS gives eternal life.
_________________ -------"Only a Sharingan user with the same blood as me can defeat me."
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:45 am |
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sasuke_ wrote: Well Madara is 120 years old and he is stil a live so I guess that EMS gives eternal life. We don't really know anything about this. Until I am proven wrong by Kishi I will go with the assumption that EMS just gives you eternal light. Itachi did say (to Sasuke during their fight) that Madara is "an invincible immortal" but this could be due to many reasons. He might be immortal because maybe he doesn't have his own body anymore (similar to Orochimaru) but this is just my speculation. _________________ His smile saved her
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Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^ Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:54 pm |
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DayBreakers wrote: Now to make something clear. Itachi vs Sasuke.
Sasuke cheat.
He come with storm and then he was able to use Kirin.
Now we can see that just Kirin save Sasuke and Eight Headed Snake.
And Itachi survive both.
So i think Sasuke is normal fucking peace of shit. (For me xD) Naruto gaara (gaara was weak and kyuubi was used) neji (kyuubi power - fully) kiba (kiba is genin level) kabuto (no. maybe in your fanfics.) oro (LOL. When did he defeat Oro? You mean Oro was playing with KN4? kyuubi is not Naruto) kakuzu (with the help of kakashi, yamato - remember that he would have died if Kakashi and yamato didn't interfere. Check the chapters again damn it my forehead hurts Pain(with help from Jiraiya,Minato,The frogs,Hinata,Konoha) Sasuke(beaten in the 1st fight even with 9 tails) Sasuke(couldn't move 5 min.) Sasuke(Poisoned again) Naruto is peace of sheat Sasuke>Sakura>Naruto what you think now?
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