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 Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:11 pm 
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My new list:

1.Sasori!!! HE HAV IRON SAND,KILL THIRD KAZEAGE,10000+ PUPPET AND IMMORTALLL
2.Thrid kazeage!!! STRONGES IN WORLD,IRON SAND 100+ PUPPET!!!
3.KONKURO!!! HAVE THREE PUPPET AND SALAMANDER!!! SALAMANDER IS ULTIMAT SHIELD AND WEAOPN BAUHAU AND HE HAVE NÉW TRICK NO ONE KNOW WAT IS IT MAYBE IRON SAND ??
4.BAKI!!! HE IS IMMORTALL U SEE GEKKOU HAYATE HE ATK WIT SWORD NOTHINK HAPPEND
5.FIRST KAZEAGE!!! HE MAKE SAND VILLAGE WITH IRON SAND!!! MAYBE IMMORTALL
6.RIDOKU SENNIN!!! HIS MAKE THE KONOHA AND RAIN VILLAGE!!!
7.Mizuki!!! HE KILL IRUKA :) AND HE FIRST BOSS!!!
8.FORUTH KAZEAGE!!! HE DEAFETED OROCHIMARU!!! AND FATHER OF ONE OF THE MAIN CHARACTER GARRA!!
9.TEMARI!!! YOU SEE WIND WHAT SHE DO?NARUTO SUCKS WIND AND ASUMA!!
10.Kabuto Yakushi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE KILLED LEGENDRAU SUNNIN AND HE REVIVE FAST!!

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Naruto-23 wrote:
My new list:

1.Sasori!!! HE HAV IRON SAND,KILL THIRD KAZEAGE,10000+ PUPPET AND IMMORTALLL
2.Thrid kazeage!!! STRONGES IN WORLD,IRON SAND 100+ PUPPET!!!
3.KONKURO!!! HAVE THREE PUPPET AND SALAMANDER!!! SALAMANDER IS ULTIMAT SHIELD AND WEAOPN BAUHAU AND HE HAVE NÉW TRICK NO ONE KNOW WAT IS IT MAYBE IRON SAND ??
4.BAKI!!! HE IS IMMORTALL U SEE GEKKOU HAYATE HE ATK WIT SWORD NOTHINK HAPPEND
5.FIRST KAZEAGE!!! HE MAKE SAND VILLAGE WITH IRON SAND!!! MAYBE IMMORTALL
6.RIDOKU SENNIN!!! HIS MAKE THE KONOHA AND RAIN VILLAGE!!!
7.Mizuki!!! HE KILL IRUKA :) AND HE FIRST BOSS!!!
8.FORUTH KAZEAGE!!! HE DEAFETED OROCHIMARU!!! AND FATHER OF ONE OF THE MAIN CHARACTER GARRA!!
9.TEMARI!!! YOU SEE WIND WHAT SHE DO?NARUTO SUCKS WIND AND ASUMA!!
10.Kabuto Yakushi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE KILLED LEGENDRAU SUNNIN AND HE REVIVE FAST!!


You says that the Third Kazekage is the strongest in the world, but still Sasori is before him on your list. And why did Sasori loss to Chiyo and Sakura then ?

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Not that i agree with him but Sasori decided to give up and let himself get killed by Chiyo's last attack.

But I think that he is just spaming random things.

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someone hacked my profile and posted that list.Who? :roll:

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ok here is the real list:

1.Uchiha Itachi
2.Uchiha Madara
3.Nagato
4.Senju Hashirama
5.Rikoudo Sennin
6.Hiruzen Sarutobi (Prime)
7. Danzou
8.Sasuke Uchiha
9. Uzumaki Naruto
10. Namikaze Minato/Tobirama Senju

what you think?

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Naruto-23 wrote:
ok here is the real list:

1.Uchiha Itachi
2.Uchiha Madara
3.Nagato
4.Senju Hashirama
5.Rikoudo Sennin
6.Hiruzen Sarutobi (Prime)
7. Danzou
8.Sasuke Uchiha
9. Uzumaki Naruto
10. Namikaze Minato/Tobirama Senju

what you think?


Not a bad list, I def agree that everyone on your list has earned the right to be in the top ten. My order would be a little different but thats def opinion and not fact. For me its

1. Rikoudo Sennin
2. Senju Hashirama
3. Uchiha Madara (Not tobi/madara)
4. Uchiha Itachi
5. Namikaze Minato
6. Hiruzen Sarutobi (Prime)
7. Uzamaki Naruto (I want to make 7 and 8 the same rank but it is what it is)
8. Sasuke Uchiha
9. Nagato
10. Danzo

Some Honorable mentions that didn't make my cut.
Hanzo
3rd Kazekage
Orochimaru/Jiraiya/Tsunade (I rank them together since I don't have to put them on the list and don't wanna go into the debate right now! lol)

I would have put tobi also but since we don't know for sure if he actually is madara or how he is related to madara I left him off. I'm sure that will change within the next 50 chapters.

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Naruto-23 wrote:
ok here is the real list:

1.Uchiha Itachi
2.Uchiha Madara
3.Nagato
4.Senju Hashirama
5.Rikoudo Sennin
6.Hiruzen Sarutobi (Prime)
7. Danzou
8.Sasuke Uchiha
9. Uzumaki Naruto
10. Namikaze Minato/Tobirama Senju

what you think?


Itachi is strong but should in no way be that high up the list.

How is Madara number 2 and Shodai Hokage number 4. Shodai defeated a prime Madara who is in turn a-lot stronger then current Madara. I don't know which Madara you referring to here, but ether way Shodai is stronger. So Number 1 goes to Shodai and number 2 goes to Madara.

How is Nagato that high on the list. The guy is strong and all, but you have him bellow Madara again Shodai defeated the strongest incarnation of Madara so Shodai should be above him.And how can he be before Rikoudo?

We know nothing about Sarutobi(Prime)'s true power. All we know is that he was stronger in his prime then Orochimaru + Prep-time which again doesn't prove much because a-lot of shinobi are above this level. If your going by hype then Sarutobi is the strongest Hokage and therefore should be at the top of the list.

What has Danzo shown that would place him so high? We haven't seen anything from him yet other then being hard to kill that would warrant such a placement.And why he is before Sasuke when Sasuke defeated him.

And why is Naruto before Minato?

As for Tobirama we literally know nothing about the guy there is really no way to place him on a list and without a doubt from what we have seen he would not make top 10. The only thing we have seen from him is good Taijutsu and high level Suitons, but in both those areas from what we have seen he is vastly inferior to Kisame.
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The Sage of the Six Paths being a more of a myth (according to Kakashi), I'll leave him out of this ranking. Same goes for his sons.

1.Shodai Hokage
Fought equally against MS and EMS Madara Many times in battle without being killed. Eventually Defeated Madara(Prime) and the Demon Fox at the Valley of the End. Had Multiple Bijuu under his control and speculatively had the Demon Fox under his Control in his prime after defeating Madara.

2.Uchiha Madara(Prime)
Was Able to Control the Demon Fox as a Pet and Summon it at will. The true master of the Sharigan. Clashed against Shodai multiple times and was not killed. Onoki Suggests Madara(Prime) even without the Demon Fox could easily defeat the entire Kage Summit and Take all 5 Kage's hostage. Even after being defeated by Shodai and dealt mortal blows he defied death and lived on.

3. Uchiha Itachi
Complete mastery of jutsu, his Sharingan, and his own mind, barely needed to fight at all in order to take out a ninja, could incapacitate someone just by looking at them or pointing, killed his entire clan off (all of whom had the same frightening abilities) in one night while only 13, well-versed in genjutsu, ninjutsu and taijutsu... Itachis talents and accomplishments are hidden from the world, because of the propaganda machine is konoha. they hate uchiha and ruined itachis life. Itachi surpassed minato in every field possible at the mere age of 9 - 10.He onepanaled shinobis like Orochimaru a couple of times,onepanaled Deidara,onepanaled Kakshi,Madara respects him and putting him in the same level with Shodai.Danzou didn’t try to touch Sasuke when he was alive…

4. Uchiha Sasuke

He is my favorite :P Underrated.Hated.Can knock out hundreds of shinobi single-handedly without needing to kill any of them, has fought on par with some of the toughest ninja in the Naruto world and survived.Made fool of Naruto a couple of times,defeated Killer Bee,killed Orochimaru and Deidara.The sharingan boy fought 5 kages in one training session and defeated the freak Danzou.

5.Orochimaru

The most difficult man to kill in the manga. Only soul attacking jutsu and Bijuu blasts are going to one shot him, all else is regenerated from. His snake jutsu aren't that amazing, although his snake summons are arguably the most powerful in the manga (at the very least, they're in second), but his most powerful jutsu unfortunately requires prep time. Edo Tensei allows him to summon most of the people in this list, but with infinite chakra and indestructable bodies, only killable through soul attacking jutsu. Combine that with the sheer difficulty of killing him and the fact he can transform into a giant eight headed snake that's apparently his strongest jutsu and you get one of the most tenacious characters in the manga.He defeated his teacher but lost his arms.But he was still powerfull:played with 6tailed Naruto and 2 Sannins couldn’t kill him.Too bad he missed with the wrong clan.

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if Orochimaru was a good guy he could bring back Hashirama and Tobirama in their true forms. The three of them could counter Madara's misplacement as well as completely dominate the Kyubi.


6.Nagato

The Successor of the Rannigan. Has the power over life and death. Was able to challenge the whole of Konoha and was only narrowly defeated mostly because of the appearance of the Nine-Tails Fox and Minato in Naruto's Seal. The Man who was AL and able to keep multiple S-rank Ninja in line. He defeated Legendary Sannin Jiraiya and the two great toad sages Fusaku and Shima while Jiraiya was in his strongest form with very little effort. Through his Pain jutsu he can take on pretty much anyone short of the 5 above him. The sheer amount of chakra he has that he can use to spam attack after attack, the sheer number of giant summons he has, the destructive abilities of Asura and especially Deva, the fact his Pain bodies can be brought back to life...the list is very extensive. He has some of the highest level of raw power in his Ninjutsu in the manga, and it's effective against pretty much everyone.

7. Kisame

Itachi considers his techniques to be too destructive to use in confined spaces. A severely weakened clone already created a lake and a weaker clone of that clone could catch a jounin. He's going to capture Killer Bee and reveal he was strong as some of the top Akatsuki members. Known to have chakra levels equal to a bijuu.Kisame is the strongest of the "Seven Shinobi Swordsmen," and he wields the strongest sword called Samehada. Samehada can absorb vast amounts of chakra and transfer it to Kisame, which he uses to restore his stamina and health.

8.Killer Bee

The Man who mastered and can fully control the Second Strongest of the Tailed Beasts.Commands probably the greatest raw power in the manga the can be used in a controlled state at this point and time. His Taijutsu is second only to Raikages thanks to his insane speed, strength, durability and swordsmanship. Anyone in Taijutsu can expect an ass whuppin. The man is immune to conventional Genjutsu thanks to his Jinchuuriki, can amp his physical abilities massively by using more and more tails in his Bijuu Shroud and can go full Bijuu at will.


9.Minato

The only character who's probably faster than him is Raikage. He can teleport around the battlefield and has extreme speed to supplement this. In effect, he can appear nearly anywhere his kunai/Hiraishin marks are, then close whatever short distance there is between himself and you and off you extremely quickly, with Rasengan. Also, he has Shiki Fuujin and was able to use it to take down the Kyuubi. Anyone hit by his Shiki Fuujin=pretty much 100% dead.

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He is 9th becouse I don't see how he could defeat anyone before him without losing his life in the process.


10. Jiraiya

One of the best ninjutsu users.He's got excellent stats all around, and can increase all this by using HM. He has access to three huge and powerful summons, and Ni Dai Sennin who can keep him in HM indefinitely and attack while on his shoulders as well as provide the second strongest Genjutsu in the series. Only Madara, Itachi, maybe Sasuke, maybe Kakashi, Killer Bee, Sasori and Raikage can hear Frog Song and survive whatever Jiraiya does next. In HM his physical stats, already near top tier, become top tier, and all his Ninjutsu are boosted AND he gets access to special Sage jutsu. All in all, extremely powerful.

Honourable Mentions (not in order)

Sarutobi Hiruzen

learned hundreds of jutsu, managed to hold off and defeat Shodai Hokage, Nidaime Hokage, and Orochimaru at the same time while out of chakra and NOT in his prime, was longest-lived hokage so far...Apparently he was the strongest Kage. Without feats to back this up I can't put him higher than this and am loathe to put him this high anyway.

Hatake Sakumo

The man considered on par with the Sannin in skill combined; the way he's talked of by Minato would lead us to believe he was even greater in skill than him.

Sasori

A scratch from his puppets/attacks=death. Hiruko alone is very powerful and he can simply outlast most Shinobi inside it. Even when broken he's got things like Sandaime Kazekage and his Satetsu, which only a handful of people outside this list can counter (and all with difficulty). Then he can bust out a hundred puppets at once, with 298 or so puppets he can use, and spam them until you slip up from being attacked on all sides at high speed and get slightly scratched, ending you instantly. Then he's got his heartbox trick, which only smart guys who can see chakra are going to be able to avoid being tricked by. In effect, you can "kill" him (inflict a mortal wound), then still be killed at you only stabbed a lifeless wooden doll. Without being smart, a lot of characters might not even figure out how to kill him.

Raikage

With just his Raiton Shroud and his bare hands he can do things it required enormous super jutsu to do. He's got the best speed feats in the manga, has some of the greatest stamina, is extremelstrong,his Raiton Shroud enhancing his strength, is insanely durable and nigh invincible with his Raiton Shroud and crucially, extremely skilled at Taijutsu. The man doesn't use super powerfull and explosive jutsu. He literally beats everything to death with his fists.

Naruto

Amazing chakra(not just 9tails).stronger than Jaraiya in strength but not in skill. Naruto is actually made out to be pathetic in the manga in the field of elemental chakra. According to the manga, wind chakra is the best, but Naruto hasn't learned that many wind jutsus. He can't even use his most powerful wind technique unless in sage mode.

Hanzo

Said to have been one of the most powerful ninja of his time. Summoned a giant salamander. Fought off all the sannins at once. Though the circumstances are unknown.

Kakuzu

Being able to wield masterfully all five elements and S-class jutsu for that matter is quite a feat.His history, his background, and his capabilities are all nothing short from impressive. Being composed of blood veins and being a guy that rips out people's hearts and takes it into his own is just amazing.

Deidara
Can you say "lol aerial bombardment"? Deidara has two crucial advantages over everyone. First the most destructive character in the manga. His bombs are sustainable and can produce extremely damaging results. C3#18 can wipe out a village in a blast, C4 can only be avoided by people who don't breathe or can see chakra and are wise enough to know to avoid the floating cloud of death and CO would kill anyone on this list who didn't have a time/space jutsu to hide in.

-Danzo( Shisui’ Sharingan,Izanagi,The 1st DNA)
-Kabutomaru(Medical Ninjutsu, His skills are said to rival those of Kakashi + Oro’s powers I will wait to see more from him)
-Zetsu(Mayfly-Fast as Madara's Time/Space, can create a special clone which can simulate the appearance anyone Zetsu has ever touched down to their chakra)
-Onoki(Dust Release,Earth Release)
-Yagura(could fully control his tailed beast)
-Mei(two Kekkei Genkai)
-Kakshi(1000+jutsus,not very good MS)
-Tsunade(Medical Ninjutsu
-Garaa(Shield of Sand)
-Konan(prediction)
-The Third Kazekage(Iron Sand)
-Tobirama(Water Release)
-Izuna(said to be Madara le)ss EMS level)
-Shisui(said to be Itachi+ level)
-Kagami Uchiha(In team with Danzou and Tobirama)
-Gay(Taijutsu master)
-Fugaku( the head of the uchiha clan and had the power to take over konoha. his sons being exceptinally talented implies there really was something about him)

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All great list thus far, but things confuse me it is so hard to rate the top and we kno who the all are considering. the 3rd defeating the Shodaime and the 2nd and was really really adamant about Minato not coming back thru edo tensei says to me Minato was a beast. I think Shodai is really over rated as is Madara, altho Ems and the tailed best had alot to do with their battles. I think Sasuke will now be more powerful then Madara and Naruto will be more then Shodaime once he reaches his prime so he can fight Sasuke's EMS. IF Sasuke fully mastered his MS and fought a prime Itachi to the death, Sasuke would win his sharigan is better than itachi's. I also believe it depends on how much the pupil and tomoe's of the sharigan maleform to MS creates a more powerful MS as Sauske's goes thru the most drastic change. Altho itachi studied his own power more than most thus his able to pass on his power thru his genjutsu's which is really great, if Sasuke had the patience and love his brother had he would be so much more, so much!
As far as uchiha's:

1) Sasuke(ems)
2) Madara(prime, EMS)
3) Itachi (prime MS, no diseases)

How they fit into the ninja ranks is hard to justify, as sakura and chiyo defeated sasori bc it was the worst possible match for him it really all depends on who they are up against.
So i can really only scale those who are simalar in powers and say this guys power was greater than this guys who shared his power. Like Naruto's Rasagan was greater than jiraya's. Circumstance and Situations have alot to do with rating this old school ninja. Shodaime and Madara were in a time of war, where the tailed beast could be controled and the fact the were in that time that made themselves legends thru their power where now it is harder bc there is no war yet. Its like goin fishin and u catch a 2 footer and as u get older and tell ur kids and their kids than that fish will end bein 4 foot and that is how "legends" are conceived thru the ages as word of mouth exagerates stories. Im not Sayin thse 2 werent badass all im sayin is that dont forget power also is inherited, Im sayin the the Ninja's of old are not as powerful as the ninjas of today the ninja of 2morrow even more so. Hell Sasuke and Itachi could be Madara's great, great grankids lol dont know where than came from


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Shodai could control the bijuu and could create life itself with his jutsu.That automatically makes him greater than some old geezer and his pet monkey, his little brother and some blonde pretty boy with a swirly kamehameha in his hand.

For the 3rd defeating Shodai.Sarutobi defeated them with Death God before they could go all out. There mindless Nature, lack of knowledge on Death God, and the fact that they couldn't see the attack coming made them very easy to hit with this Technique(which normally they would not be).So i doubt even 1/4 of there true power/ability was used against Sarutobi.Hiruzen in his prime would not compare to Hashirama in his prime, meaning before he gave away his army of bijuu. People always forget to include this when they factor his strength.I one bijuu makes you kage level, five or more bijuu make you simply invincible.

Shodai was the only man who could oppose Madara, even Shino did. He was, however, the only man who has defeated him. A feat no other person has done. The yondaime was rendered powerless when he met Madara and chose suicide.

Sarutobi's and Minato's hype is based on some comment from a fodder Konoha ninjas. We have no feats to rank them above the 1st.

Madara(prime) had the most advanced sharingan (EMS) had the strongest chakra in uchiha (I am assuming his chakra is still unrivaled because no one else has been able to summon the kyuubi and he said that his immortality of the product of his strong chakra) and he clearly was a genius (in this manga genius is measured by accomplishing great feats at a young age (Kakashi, Itachi) or amazing tactical abilities (Shikamaru). Based on what we know Madara was a genius since he was first to awaken MS and did so at a young age and has shown an uncanny ability to plan elaborate schemes). Based on the above, I conclude that he was the strongest uchiha ever and the manga confirms this because Itachi calls him that. So, to conclude, Hashirama is definitely stronger than Minato/3rd level ninja by a huge margin and easily defeat most of today's elite with his army of bijuu.

Sasuke can become stronger than itachi and Madara but not yet.
As for Shodai I guess that he won't be surprised by Anyone-he could control all bijuu like pets.

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Stop talking about dead ninja if they were so stronge they should still have there live ;)

and i think the stronge ninja just start coming...

as far as I'm concern Naruto must be strongest ninja ever... Sage mode + rasen shiruken + clone ... he also did clone of sage mode .. and some ppl said he gonna learn how to control the 9tails , and the power Itachi left him ... i think Naruto will be definitly the real deal !!

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No, Itachi and Sasuke are a million times stronger than him :|

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I said my point there nothing to change my mind :P

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Just a few things to say Sasuke's genjitsu wont work coz naruto has 9 tailed fox hell learn how to control it and same as killer bee shell protect him and for kirin well thats nature chakra naruto in sage mode will probably absorve it naruto pwnes sasuke :twisted: coz itachi gave him that power u forgot? and btw 3th hokage beat orochimaru 1st and second hokage that means his strogner than madara ^^

my top list

1- 3th hokage
2- nagato
3- 1st hokage
4- madara orig.
5- killer bee
6- itachi
7- naruto
8- minato
9- Jiraiya
10- Sasuke
11- orochimaru


after that i would add 3th kazekage killer bee and so on ^^

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LOL Nagato 2nd and Madara and Itachi 4th and 6th.
Naruto above Minato,Jiraiya,Sasuke...

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in a forum you accept the rules like not to insult . to respect everyone idea . if you cannot do it grown up and come back when ur matured a little
cuz not everybody like psycho maniac...who only disier is to control everything and burn everything they touch only becaus they are mad after themself to be soo lonely !

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By Doing revenge you only get regrets and Pain... : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ9zWXDP ... re=related


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 Post subject: Re: Strongest Ninja for you ^^
 Post Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:08 am 
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1.Shodai(with all bijuus)
2.Kabuto(Edo Tensei)
3.Itachi(Not sick)
4.Hiruzen Sarutobi(Prime)- with massive hype
5.Sasuke(EMS)
6.Madara(Prime)
7.Naruto(with 9tails control)
8.Itachi(storyline)
9.Tobi
10.Minato(with massive hype)/Killer Bee

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