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Post subject: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory]  Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:23 am |
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I've been thinking lately and looking at the comments of others got me looking back into the manga, were i found something very interesting surrounding the question of " Who Is Tobi ".
http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/561/9
- " Do you know our plan as well "
What plan is madara talking about ? That got me questioning if tobi is connected to madara.. http://www.mangareader.net/93-390-16/naruto/chapter-385.html- " The first man to ever use thoese eyes to control the kurama " http://www.mangareader.net/93-55203-8/naruto/chapter-501.html- " You " The kurama made a resemblence between madara and tobi and remembered that awful chakra, which would take him over when looked into the sharingan. http://www.mangareader.net/93-391-5/naruto/chapter-386.html- Madara and Izuna were brothers, and harnessed their skills against each other wanting to become stronger than the other. Maybe the kurama made a judgmental guess against tobi thinking he was madara, because of there passed relationship. In the anime, itachi tells the story of madara and izuna being equals in every way possible. http://www.mangareader.net/93-55464-11/naruto/chapter-502.html- Minato question tobi of being madara.. this makes my theory even more plausible. Since madara and izuna were so equal, maybe minato made a hypothesis that madara was still alive. http://www.mangareader.net/93-391-8/naruto/chapter-386.html- Itachi stated madara took izuna's eyes by force, to keep his leadership of the Uchiha Clan. Tobi stated that izuna willing gave his eyes to madara, for the sake of the clan. Different stories at different time periods. http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/560/2- Madara knew about ET, and questioned the JSA on who was using it.. IMO after izuna died, madara fount a way to Resurrect izuna ( it may have been noobish at the time ) but from his many experiments and DNA gathered ( Hashirama's DNA ) maybe he fused everything together to form this creation " Tobi "
http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/564/10- " Madara's Eyes Are The Same " stated by naruto uzumaki http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/564/12- when tobi fount out that kabuto summoned the real madara, tobi chuckled and went on to tell naruto to call him anyone he would like too.. Why would tobi feel so confromtable, when his cover was blown ? IMO izuna wouldnt care, seeing people mistake him alot for being madara.. look in previous link naruto stated madara's eyes are the same "http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/564/13- Madara has rinnegan and izuna has rinngan, maybe the brothers are trying to recover their titles as leaders, not amongst the uchiha but maybe the WORLD ! Madara and Izuna were so alike, maybe their evil similarities pass down during time. Thoughts ?
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:23 pm |
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OMFG! I KNOW! Tobi is Uchiha Madara son! Hes brother is dead, he has the same chakra like hes father! And same eyes! http://www.mangareader.net/93-390-16/na ... r-385.htmlHe was hes accomplice and hes mentor, Madara was not Izune mentor! he was hes brother! they fought together! But he was likelly hes own son mentor!
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:04 pm |
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Crazy wrote: OMFG! I KNOW! Tobi is Uchiha Madara son! Hes brother is dead, he has the same chakra like hes father! And same eyes! http://www.mangareader.net/93-390-16/na ... r-385.htmlHe was hes accomplice and hes mentor, Madara was not Izune mentor! he was hes brother! they fought together! But he was likelly hes own son mentor! Itachi meant Tobi was his mentor, not anything else.. Itachi couldnt be talking about izuna, because he was speaking to sasuke directly about his relationship with the masked man. _________________ . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:16 pm |
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Look at these panals...http://www.mangareader.net/93-391-5/naruto/chapter-386.htmlhttp://www.mangareader.net/93-391-6/naruto/chapter-386.htmlIf tobi is izuna we can understand, how he has mass amount of knowledge leading all the back to rikudou's time. " They Each Awakened Their Sharingan... And Before Long, Even Among Their Own Clan, They Became Famed For Their Strength " We see here, that izuna had the same famed appearance before his sold called death. So if you think about it, izuna and madara could of been mistake for the other if this panal was indeed telling the truth. " As They Competed, They Searched For A Way To Develope Their Doujustus Further " Tobi wanted nagato's rinnegan for the " Moon Eye Project " and madara awakened his rinnegan before death.. doesnt the comparsion between the two, look strangely odd going into the case of tobi ? http://www.mangareader.net/93-391-6/naruto/chapter-386.htmlMadara was stated Uchiha Clan leader, because he was older than izuna making my theory even more plausible " They Were Equals " IMO Tobi is izuna after many experiments to Resurrect him.
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:16 pm |
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It's a possibility...
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:49 pm |
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AdyKyuubi wrote: It's a possibility... If you think about it.. what other uchiha member, could possible holds this much knowledge of Senju, Uzumaki, Uchiha and also give clear details surrounding rikudou & madara uchiha. Obito couldnt have this much information, regarding he was born around the time kakashi was. Itachi = / = it doesnt connect what-so-ever Sasuke = / = doesnt connect either Shisuii was the best friend of itachi and died. Time of birth wouldnt have fitted the situation either. Fugaku was killed by itachi uchiha, even tobi stated this.. The only possible matches would be Izuna or Elder Son. Izuna seems more of the logical choice, seeing the elder son wouldnt rely on madara's title to go forward with his plans. The only person that would use the name of madara for this long, and then chuckle when his secret is revealed, would only be the brother of madara himself.. _________________ . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:11 pm |
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Narutohero2 wrote: AdyKyuubi wrote: It's a possibility... If you think about it.. what other uchiha member, could possible holds this much knowledge of Senju, Uzumaki, Uchiha and also give clear details surrounding rikudou & madara uchiha. Obito couldnt have this much information, regarding he was born around the time kakashi was. Itachi = / = it doesnt connect what-so-ever Sasuke = / = doesnt connect either Shisuii was the best friend of itachi and died. Time of birth wouldnt have fitted the situation either. Fugaku was killed by itachi uchiha, even tobi stated this.. The only possible matches would be Izuna or Elder Son. Izuna seems more of the logical choice, seeing the elder son wouldnt rely on madara's title to go forward with his plans. The only person that would use the name of madara for this long, and then chuckle when his secret is revealed, would only be the brother of madara himself.. Or he is an unknown Uchiha... _________________ We won't be defeated no matter what!!!
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:14 pm |
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AdyKyuubi wrote: Narutohero2 wrote: AdyKyuubi wrote: It's a possibility... If you think about it.. what other uchiha member, could possible holds this much knowledge of Senju, Uzumaki, Uchiha and also give clear details surrounding rikudou & madara uchiha. Obito couldnt have this much information, regarding he was born around the time kakashi was. Itachi = / = it doesnt connect what-so-ever Sasuke = / = doesnt connect either Shisuii was the best friend of itachi and died. Time of birth wouldnt have fitted the situation either. Fugaku was killed by itachi uchiha, even tobi stated this.. The only possible matches would be Izuna or Elder Son. Izuna seems more of the logical choice, seeing the elder son wouldnt rely on madara's title to go forward with his plans. The only person that would use the name of madara for this long, and then chuckle when his secret is revealed, would only be the brother of madara himself.. Or he is an unknown Uchiha... _________________ . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:03 am |
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aaahhh....the question is whom did Itachi kill he rest of the Uchiha with, If Madara died when he gave his rinnegan to Nagato. Was it Tobi or Madara pull a fast one and pretend he died again?
I think Tobi is a descendant of Izuna with a grudge against Madara
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:39 pm |
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AdyKyuubi wrote: It's a possibility... I agree, I think its possible
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:45 pm |
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bobbyscott wrote: aaahhh....the question is whom did Itachi kill he rest of the Uchiha with, If Madara died when he gave his rinnegan to Nagato. Was it Tobi or Madara pull a fast one and pretend he died again?
I think Tobi is a descendant of Izuna with a grudge against Madara I agree to this.. but they were too many panals stating tobi's sharingan is similar to madara's sharingan, and look at itachi's story about izuna and madara being equals, i believe the tobi could be izuna or someone with strong blood towards him. _________________ . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:10 am |
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Your theory made me relapse, lol. I used to think Tobi was Izuna and told everyone that as well.
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:56 pm |
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I hate to say it, but I'm really starting to think that Tobi is Obito  _________________ 
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:59 am |
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sasori_ wrote: I hate to say it, but I'm really starting to think that Tobi is Obito why ? if tobi is obito i would get really surpriced tbh coz then i tihnk kishi should explain how he knows so much! _________________ 
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:25 am |
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menma wrote: sasori_ wrote: I hate to say it, but I'm really starting to think that Tobi is Obito why ? if tobi is obito i would get really surpriced tbh coz then i tihnk kishi should explain how he knows so much! Yes he has to explain... _________________ We won't be defeated no matter what!!!
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:16 am |
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How do you explain Zetsu cells? his death being clamed more then once, by Itachi and others? his eyes being in Madara and he having only normal sharingan? these are my first thoughts sorry its a bit late 4am here
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:20 am |
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Valjavec wrote: How do you explain Zetsu cells? his death being clamed more then once, by Itachi and others? his eyes being in Madara and he having only normal sharingan? these are my first thoughts sorry its a bit late 4am here I would simply say that overtime, madara or tobi either implanted part of zetsu's cells within himself. The most reliable theory would be that zetsu is an izanagi creation, and seeing the fact madara has rinnegan and mokuton makes it even more plausible that it could of happened. _________________ . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:11 pm |
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Narutohero2 wrote: I would simply say that overtime, madara or tobi either implanted part of zetsu's cells within himself. The most reliable theory would be that zetsu is an izanagi creation, and seeing the fact madara has rinnegan and mokuton makes it even more plausible that it could of happened. But Zetsu is made out of firsts cells how can he be izanagi creation, i do not think your theory is true _________________
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:25 pm |
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Valjavec wrote: Narutohero2 wrote: I would simply say that overtime, madara or tobi either implanted part of zetsu's cells within himself. The most reliable theory would be that zetsu is an izanagi creation, and seeing the fact madara has rinnegan and mokuton makes it even more plausible that it could of happened. But Zetsu is made out of firsts cells how can he be izanagi creation, i do not think your theory is true This is in contradiction with Zetsu's creation itself....so there is no way it is true _________________ We won't be defeated no matter what!!!
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Post subject: Re: TOBI IS IZUNA !!!! [Theory] Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:05 pm |
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Valjavec wrote: Narutohero2 wrote: I would simply say that overtime, madara or tobi either implanted part of zetsu's cells within himself. The most reliable theory would be that zetsu is an izanagi creation, and seeing the fact madara has rinnegan and mokuton makes it even more plausible that it could of happened. But Zetsu is made out of firsts cells how can he be izanagi creation, i do not think your theory is true Zetsu had hashirama's dna to start with ? I do believe zetsu was given shodai's dna from the clone of hashirama himself and yamato. Madara had a connection with nagato before his death, so saying zetsu cant be an izanagi creation would be self opinion. Madara had rinnegan, mokuton and hashirama's dna before his death.. every component listed here are capable with izanagi. _________________ . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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