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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572  Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:16 pm |
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I believe that RS was very much the Protagonist because if you remember it was said that out of the Juubi the 9 tailed beast were created and that the Juubi was a Filled with hatred and malice, he was saying that when they were the Juubi they had a different form. RS created them and charged them to live a good life not filled with hatred as the Shinobi made them do. A lot of the trouble the Kurama went through wasnt even at his own will he was controlled by Madara.
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:23 pm |
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Minato Namikaze wrote: I believe that RS was very much the Protagonist because if you remember it was said that out of the Juubi the 9 tailed beast were created and that the Juubi was a Filled with hatred and malice, he was saying that when they were the Juubi they had a different form. RS created them and charged them to live a good life not filled with hatred as the Shinobi made them do. A lot of the trouble the Kurama went through wasnt even at his own will he was controlled by Madara. That's why he looked so EVIL...Madara and Tobi made him look like that....And the story is the same for the others bijuu... _________________  We won't be defeated no matter what!!!
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:13 pm |
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AdyKyuubi wrote: Minato Namikaze wrote: I believe that RS was very much the Protagonist because if you remember it was said that out of the Juubi the 9 tailed beast were created and that the Juubi was a Filled with hatred and malice, he was saying that when they were the Juubi they had a different form. RS created them and charged them to live a good life not filled with hatred as the Shinobi made them do. A lot of the trouble the Kurama went through wasnt even at his own will he was controlled by Madara. That's why he looked so EVIL...Madara and Tobi made him look like that....And the story is the same for the others bijuu...
Why does everyone keep saying that all Biiju are filled with hatred/Evil?
We have seen no proof that all the other beasts were that full of animosity towards shinobi.
I mean the only two Biju abundantly shown are the 8 and 9 Tails and they have extremely good reasons for being pissed off.
But when Shukaku was released, he was a sort of funny guy and had no true anger issues of himself in the exams. He even worked with Gaara to a certain extent(Notice how the sand that held Sakura kept holding her even when they entered biju mode). Same with Yugito. No one claimed the 2 Tails going on a rampage.
Even the Four Tails in the flashback wasn't bitchy with his Jinchuriki. Hell, if anything, it was the Jinchuriki who was an ass to Son, calling him by his name ONLY after a lifetime, after dying.
They naturally had the desire to be free, every caged animal does. But calling them full of HATE is totally another thing. They all had unique personalities and probably some of them didn't mind being partners with Jinchuriki.
Kurama was a proud creature (remember him being condescending against Shukaku for just having a single tail), and it was his bruised ego more than anything else, that made him lash out against the shinobi. He probably couldn't stand being "tamed" by anyone who he felt was less than RS himself, and he clearly only sees RS in Naruto.
On a side note, does anyone else here think Bee and Gaara got the wrong Biju?? 
I mean Shukaku was a total gangsta and I could clearly see him enjoying rap, maybe even joining in with Bee and his idiocies, where as the 8-tails is more solemn slightly emo, like Gaara.
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:15 pm |
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Kakashi-San wrote:
Why does everyone keep saying that all Biiju are filled with hatred/Evil?
We have seen no proof that all the other beasts were that full of animosity towards shinobi.
I mean the only two Biju abundantly shown are the 8 and 9 Tails and they have extremely good reasons for being pissed off.
But when Shukaku was released, he was a sort of funny guy and had no true anger issues of himself in the exams. He even worked with Gaara to a certain extent(Notice how the sand that held Sakura kept holding her even when they entered biju mode). Same with Yugito. No one claimed the 2 Tails going on a rampage.
Even the Four Tails in the flashback wasn't bitchy with his Jinchuriki. Hell, if anything, it was the Jinchuriki who was an ass to Son, calling him by his name ONLY after a lifetime, after dying.
They naturally had the desire to be free, every caged animal does. But calling them full of HATE is totally another thing. They all had unique personalities and probably some of them didn't mind being partners with Jinchuriki.
Kurama was a proud creature (remember him being condescending against Shukaku for just having a single tail), and it was his bruised ego more than anything else, that made him lash out against the shinobi. He probably couldn't stand being "tamed" by anyone who he felt was less than RS himself, and he clearly only sees RS in Naruto.
On a side note, does anyone else here think Bee and Gaara got the wrong Biju??
I mean Shukaku was a total gangsta and I could clearly see him enjoying rap, maybe even joining in with Bee and his idiocies, where as the 8-tails is more solemn slightly emo, like Gaara.lmao i do agree that it would fit better if bee and gaara turned there bijuus around and about the other thing! well i think it coz no1 safed the jinch when they got captured! and basicly becoz i dont think its only the hachibi and the kyuubi there been treating like dirt! _________________ 
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:53 am |
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AdyKyuubi wrote: Hitori wrote: My prediction is that naruto will hold all nine as separate minds inside of his (he should be used to having a split personality by now anyways). However, when he uses his BM it will be similar to his BM with kurama (as in it will be a chakra cloak still) only it will instead look like the juubi. That way he will be the juubi host without being the "juubi" host. That's quite a theory you have here...but it's possible because Rs said they(the bijuus) will have different names and different forms...so it's possible to happen like this...but it's possible that Naruto will get all their powers and combine them What the RS said (different names, different forms) simply means as jinchuuriki bijuu, nothing else. For example: His name is Gyuuki. He is 8 tails. While he is inside Bee he is called HACHIBI(different name) He can take the partial human form V2 cloak...his chakra trapped in human form (Different form than just his normal bijuu form) _________________ 
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:58 am |
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menma wrote: Kakashi-San wrote:
Why does everyone keep saying that all Biiju are filled with hatred/Evil?
We have seen no proof that all the other beasts were that full of animosity towards shinobi.
I mean the only two Biju abundantly shown are the 8 and 9 Tails and they have extremely good reasons for being pissed off.
But when Shukaku was released, he was a sort of funny guy and had no true anger issues of himself in the exams. He even worked with Gaara to a certain extent(Notice how the sand that held Sakura kept holding her even when they entered biju mode). Same with Yugito. No one claimed the 2 Tails going on a rampage.
Even the Four Tails in the flashback wasn't bitchy with his Jinchuriki. Hell, if anything, it was the Jinchuriki who was an ass to Son, calling him by his name ONLY after a lifetime, after dying.
They naturally had the desire to be free, every caged animal does. But calling them full of HATE is totally another thing. They all had unique personalities and probably some of them didn't mind being partners with Jinchuriki.
Kurama was a proud creature (remember him being condescending against Shukaku for just having a single tail), and it was his bruised ego more than anything else, that made him lash out against the shinobi. He probably couldn't stand being "tamed" by anyone who he felt was less than RS himself, and he clearly only sees RS in Naruto.
On a side note, does anyone else here think Bee and Gaara got the wrong Biju??
I mean Shukaku was a total gangsta and I could clearly see him enjoying rap, maybe even joining in with Bee and his idiocies, where as the 8-tails is more solemn slightly emo, like Gaara.lmao i do agree that it would fit better if bee and gaara turned there bijuus around and about the other thing! well i think it coz no1 safed the jinch when they got captured! and basicly becoz i dont think its only the hachibi and the kyuubi there been treating like dirt! Are you kidding me Gaara had an extreme ravenous killer intent due to being a bijuu and also when he went into bijuu mode he got even more blood thirsty. That does show some signs of Hatred and blood lust _________________
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:15 am |
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imurbandaid wrote: AdyKyuubi wrote: Hitori wrote: My prediction is that naruto will hold all nine as separate minds inside of his (he should be used to having a split personality by now anyways). However, when he uses his BM it will be similar to his BM with kurama (as in it will be a chakra cloak still) only it will instead look like the juubi. That way he will be the juubi host without being the "juubi" host. That's quite a theory you have here...but it's possible because Rs said they(the bijuus) will have different names and different forms...so it's possible to happen like this...but it's possible that Naruto will get all their powers and combine them What the RS said (different names, different forms) simply means as jinchuuriki bijuu, nothing else. For example: His name is Gyuuki. He is 8 tails. While he is inside Bee he is called HACHIBI(different name) He can take the partial human form V2 cloak...his chakra trapped in human form (Different form than just his normal bijuu form) He was called Hachibi because he had 8 tails....exactly as Kurama is called Kyuubi _________________ We won't be defeated no matter what!!!
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:56 am |
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Minato Namikaze wrote: menma wrote: Kakashi-San wrote:
Why does everyone keep saying that all Biiju are filled with hatred/Evil?
We have seen no proof that all the other beasts were that full of animosity towards shinobi.
I mean the only two Biju abundantly shown are the 8 and 9 Tails and they have extremely good reasons for being pissed off.
But when Shukaku was released, he was a sort of funny guy and had no true anger issues of himself in the exams. He even worked with Gaara to a certain extent(Notice how the sand that held Sakura kept holding her even when they entered biju mode). Same with Yugito. No one claimed the 2 Tails going on a rampage.
Even the Four Tails in the flashback wasn't bitchy with his Jinchuriki. Hell, if anything, it was the Jinchuriki who was an ass to Son, calling him by his name ONLY after a lifetime, after dying.
They naturally had the desire to be free, every caged animal does. But calling them full of HATE is totally another thing. They all had unique personalities and probably some of them didn't mind being partners with Jinchuriki.
Kurama was a proud creature (remember him being condescending against Shukaku for just having a single tail), and it was his bruised ego more than anything else, that made him lash out against the shinobi. He probably couldn't stand being "tamed" by anyone who he felt was less than RS himself, and he clearly only sees RS in Naruto.
On a side note, does anyone else here think Bee and Gaara got the wrong Biju??
I mean Shukaku was a total gangsta and I could clearly see him enjoying rap, maybe even joining in with Bee and his idiocies, where as the 8-tails is more solemn slightly emo, like Gaara.lmao i do agree that it would fit better if bee and gaara turned there bijuus around and about the other thing! well i think it coz no1 safed the jinch when they got captured! and basicly becoz i dont think its only the hachibi and the kyuubi there been treating like dirt! Are you kidding me Gaara had an extreme ravenous killer intent due to being a bijuu and also when he went into bijuu mode he got even more blood thirsty. That does show some signs of Hatred and blood lust
When he transformed PARTIALLY, he was still in control and thus had all the emotions and thoughts he would normally have, just with an enhanced power level.
Not until he fell asleep did the true personality of Shukaku actually come out.
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:44 am |
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Remember in star wars when Anakin Skywalker was suppose to be the prophet child, but then later on ventured to the darkside. It was shown that Anakin wasnt the prophet child, but his son Luke was... maybe this is the same going along with Minato and Naruto
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:17 am |
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Narutohero2 wrote: Remember in star wars when Anakin Skywalker was suppose to be the prophet child, but then later on ventured to the darkside. It was shown that Anakin wasnt the prophet child, but his son Luke was... maybe this is the same going along with Minato and Naruto It is the same... Jiraiya firstly thought that Nagato is the ''man who would save the world''..but eventually because of Tobi's influence Nagato fell off into the darkside...and considered himslef a ''God''...just because he had Rinnegan...until Naruto came up and destroyed his believes...and made him remember what Jiraiya was trying to teach him... Naruto is an exception for the rule that says ''When someone hates you...You must hate him too..''...This rule is almost everytime inducing the people in error... _________________ We won't be defeated no matter what!!!
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:34 pm |
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Kakashi-San wrote: Minato Namikaze wrote: Kakashi-San wrote: lmao i do agree that it would fit better if bee and gaara turned there bijuus around and about the other thing! well i think it coz no1 safed the jinch when they got captured! and basicly becoz i dont think its only the hachibi and the kyuubi there been treating like dirt! Are you kidding me Gaara had an extreme ravenous killer intent due to being a bijuu and also when he went into bijuu mode he got even more blood thirsty. That does show some signs of Hatred and blood lust
When he transformed PARTIALLY, he was still in control and thus had all the emotions and thoughts he would normally have, just with an enhanced power level.
Not until he fell asleep did the true personality of Shukaku actually come out.But even as a child Gaara had moments where he blanked out and killed many people also The 4th Kazekage even said himself that the Shukaku would go on rampages _________________
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:36 pm |
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Quote: That's quite a theory you have here...but it's possible because Rs said they(the bijuus) will have different names and different forms...so it's possible to happen like this...but it's possible that Naruto will get all their powers and combine them Quote: What the RS said (different names, different forms) simply means as jinchuuriki bijuu, nothing else. For example:
His name is Gyuuki. He is 8 tails.
While he is inside Bee he is called HACHIBI(different name)
He can take the partial human form V2 cloak...his chakra trapped in human form (Different form than just his normal bijuu form) Quote: He was called Hachibi because he had 8 tails....exactly as Kurama is called Kyuubi Exactly my point, and that is what the RS means. They have their real names, yet ninjas call them DIFFERENT NAMES....then their jinchuuriki forms like V2 is what he means be DIFFERENT FORMS... _________________
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:54 pm |
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For some reason i doubt he meant by New forms he meant different level chakra Modes. RS said that they had different forms from when they were inside him Meaning that when he split the Juubi he created different forms for each bijuu. And by his words i do believe that All 9 tailed beast will become one again he said the day will come when all of you become one again. http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/572/10http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/572/11_________________
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:55 pm |
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I think they will form a juubi much different from the hate filled juubi Madara spoke of more like a good powerful one
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:41 pm |
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Minato Namikaze wrote: I think they will form a juubi much different from the hate filled juubi Madara spoke of more like a good powerful one Each Bijuu has its own personality and unique traits. By merging them together those will be lost forever...
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:50 pm |
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imurbandaid wrote: What the RS said (different names, different forms) simply means as jinchuuriki bijuu, nothing else. For example:
His name is Gyuuki. He is 8 tails.
While he is inside Bee he is called HACHIBI(different name)
He can take the partial human form V2 cloak...his chakra trapped in human form (Different form than just his normal bijuu form) Hatchbi is the generic name given to Eight Tails... In Japanese "Hatch" means "Eight" and "Bi" means "Tails".. So, its not a different name or something.. Its just the name that people have kept for it taking into consideration the number of tails it has... _________________ Regards, krishna.kumar
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:47 am |
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Narutohero2 wrote: Remember in star wars when Anakin Skywalker was suppose to be the prophet child, but then later on ventured to the darkside. It was shown that Anakin wasnt the prophet child, but his son Luke was... maybe this is the same going along with Minato and Naruto Sorry to go off topic, but Anakin actually as the chosen one destined to destroy the sith and bring balance back to the force. He killed Sidious by throwing him over the rail, and in doing so killed himself as well. I don't think Naruto will have all the Bijuu in him, just 2-7 and 9, unless Bee were to die, and or he rescued Shukaku. Even then, I don't think they'll become the Juubi. As they would lose their unique personalities, perhaps he'll seal them in seperate parts of himself as to keep them apart. Who knows for sure... _________________  Run... Run, and cling to life.
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:46 pm |
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Uchiha wrote: Narutohero2 wrote: Remember in star wars when Anakin Skywalker was suppose to be the prophet child, but then later on ventured to the darkside. It was shown that Anakin wasnt the prophet child, but his son Luke was... maybe this is the same going along with Minato and Naruto Sorry to go off topic, but Anakin actually as the chosen one destined to destroy the sith and bring balance back to the force. He killed Sidious by throwing him over the rail, and in doing so killed himself as well. I don't think Naruto will have all the Bijuu in him, just 2-7 and 9, unless Bee were to die, and or he rescued Shukaku. Even then, I don't think they'll become the Juubi. As they would lose their unique personalities, perhaps he'll seal them in seperate parts of himself as to keep them apart. Who knows for sure...
I agree with you on all counts, including the Anakin Skywalker part. I was just about to write that, lol. People never pay attention to minute details, and its exactly there where clues to the future lie always
And I think he'll get even Shukaku and the rest except Hachibi
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Post subject: Re: Naruto 572 Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:06 pm |
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idk where the shukaku is but this is what i think!
1. even he's not using it coz he dont see any reasons to!
2. he became its jinch himself!
3. he used most of he's chakra to make the white zetsu army!
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