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How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ?
Zetsu betrays Madara 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Naruto finds Madara's weaknesses by himself with Kyuubi's intel 33%  33%  [ 8 ]
Kakashi will die once again for that 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Kabuto betrays Madara 17%  17%  [ 4 ]
Sasuke kills Madara and assumes role of final villain 21%  21%  [ 5 ]
Tsunade becomes a little useful in fights at last 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
Something else happens... (Pls mention) 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
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The only person left from the original Akatsuki is Zetsu. So, Zetsu may be the only character who may know the subtle weaknesses that Madara possesses like Konan knew. Might be that, Kabuto-Oro knows the drawbacks, but we can't be sure.

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I think Sasuke will kill Madara and will go to fight with Naruto for last time in story :)

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I think there will be a fight with someone or several people dying, but revealing the most important intel about Madara's general skills.
On the other hand, guys like Fu and Torune found out about the basics really really quick.
Hm by the way there is a vague possibility of Naruto knowing them... Kushina's story showed some things she actually couldn't really knew but if she did know them and told them to Naruto, he has some basic ideas already.

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I think there will be a fight with someone or several people dying, but revealing the most important intel about Madara's general skills.
On the other hand, guys like Fu and Torune found out about the basics really really quick.
Hm by the way there is a vague possibility of Naruto knowing them... Kushina's story showed some things she actually couldn't really knew but if she did know them and told them to Naruto, he has some basic ideas already.


There is also the possibility that sasuke turns sides again and gives massive intel to naruto and konoha. Sasuke is a lot of things, but one thing is isn't is a fool. I'm sure he pays extremely close attention to everything he sees madara do, just in case he has to fight him later on (as I'm guessing he expects to happen). Also sasuke now has EMS, so he would have a very intimate understanding of what a sharingan user on madara's caliber is capable of.

However if sasuke doesn't turn sides there is the chance that naruto simply becomes capable of fighting on equal grounds. So far he seems ignorant to how uniquely his powers have been growing, he seems the only person aside from madara who is on the path towards becoming equal to the sage. There are plenty of incredibly strong ninja out there, but naruto's style is very much so working in the direction of gaining multiple "paths" as madara calls it. Personally though I feel like sasuke must have a major part to play in the downfall of madara. I don't expect kishimoto would let him die a villain, at least not without a heroic death like nagato.

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I would really love a plot twist in which Sasuke betrays Madara and joins Konoha to destroy Madara. I would love if he states that, like Itachi, his primary goal was also to defeat Madara and he set up the whole scenario like this with the sole purpose of defeating Madara.

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krishna.kumar wrote:
I would really love a plot twist in which Sasuke betrays Madara and joins Konoha to destroy Madara. I would love if he states that, like Itachi, his primary goal was also to defeat Madara and he set up the whole scenario like this with the sole purpose of defeating Madara.


Of course... no one would ever harm Sasuke for killing Danzou, the 6th Hokage.
No one would ever mistrust Sasuke for attacking the Five Kage´s meeting.
And finally no one would ever rather kill Sasuke for being a missingnin and betraying not only Konoha, but also the other 5 big ninja country´s.....

No, seriously. I don´t think that this will ever happen. But maybe PnJ and a crying Naruto that screams out loud under his bedcover: "LEAAAVE SASSSUKEEEE ALOOOOOOOOONE!" could handle that Sasuke will be allowed to come back to Konoha.

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krishna.kumar wrote:
I would really love a plot twist in which Sasuke betrays Madara and joins Konoha to destroy Madara. I would love if he states that, like Itachi, his primary goal was also to defeat Madara and he set up the whole scenario like this with the sole purpose of defeating Madara.


Of course... no one would ever harm Sasuke for killing Danzou, the 6th Hokage.
No one would ever mistrust Sasuke for attacking the Five Kage´s meeting.
And finally no one would ever rather kill Sasuke for being a missingnin and betraying not only Konoha, but also the other 5 big ninja country´s.....

No, seriously. I don´t think that this will ever happen. But maybe PnJ and a crying Naruto that screams out loud under his bedcover: "LEAAAVE SASSSUKEEEE ALOOOOOOOOONE!" could handle that Sasuke will be allowed to come back to Konoha.


Itachi helped Konoha a lot and gave his life for Konoha. But, still, Itachi is tainted as a villain in the hearts of people of Konoha. When I meant "joins forces with Konoha", I never meant Konoha and other villages forgiving Sasuke. I meant "Sasuke" and "Konoha" having same aim. They fighting for the same cause and Sasuke sacrificing himself for the village like Itachi did. No one would ever understand Sasuke till the end, but he would be a hero in the hearts of "readers" like us. That's what I was telling.

As far as Naruto is concerned, I don't find a reason why he won't yell "LEAAAVE SASSSUKEEEE ALOOOOOOOOONE!". After all, he is the best in that... ;)

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krishna.kumar wrote:
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krishna.kumar wrote:
I would really love a plot twist in which Sasuke betrays Madara and joins Konoha to destroy Madara. I would love if he states that, like Itachi, his primary goal was also to defeat Madara and he set up the whole scenario like this with the sole purpose of defeating Madara.


Of course... no one would ever harm Sasuke for killing Danzou, the 6th Hokage.
No one would ever mistrust Sasuke for attacking the Five Kage´s meeting.
And finally no one would ever rather kill Sasuke for being a missingnin and betraying not only Konoha, but also the other 5 big ninja country´s.....

No, seriously. I don´t think that this will ever happen. But maybe PnJ and a crying Naruto that screams out loud under his bedcover: "LEAAAVE SASSSUKEEEE ALOOOOOOOOONE!" could handle that Sasuke will be allowed to come back to Konoha.


Itachi helped Konoha a lot and gave his life for Konoha. But, still, Itachi is tainted as a villain in the hearts of people of Konoha. When I meant "joins forces with Konoha", I never meant Konoha and other villages forgiving Sasuke. I meant "Sasuke" and "Konoha" having same aim. They fighting for the same cause and Sasuke sacrificing himself for the village like Itachi did. No one would ever understand Sasuke till the end, but he would be a hero in the hearts of "readers" like us. That's what I was telling.
As far as Naruto is concerned, I don't find a reason why he won't yell "LEAAAVE SASSSUKEEEE ALOOOOOOOOONE!". After all, he is the best in that... ;)


I could seriously see this happen.
All this whining from naruto´s side about sasuke is going way to far.
They were never really close until he left konoha and said once that he think´s naruto is his friend.
I personally don´t like the way theri relationship is going.


But know for something about your post.
Sound quite possibly. I think I just misunderstood you ;)

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I think out of self preservation and massive hatred for the Uchiha the kyuubi will give naruto the necessary intel which will allow him to beat madara.


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Sasuke, joining forces to kill tobi?!?, hmm this may be a good theory, seeing that sasuke has no intentions with tobi as for now since he has EMS he just might due away with tobi himself thinking hes strong enough "but is that the case?!?"

Sasuke, stated many times that he has no loyalty intentions emotional intentions with leaf at all, so his best bet is too know tobi's zetsu operation, and then slaughter all of the 10,000 zetsu's to train out his EMS, then later slaughter kabuto (if he can), and then when tobi is in blood-lust he should leave the destruction of tobi to naruto!!!, which if naruto is worthy of fighting sasuke would kill tobi, and give the satafication to sasuke in the last battle!

Tobi, is really stupid, for one telling his intentions to the kage summit!, relying on kabuto to capture the 9 tails in which story>plot it wont happen, and mosty being cocky over his moon eye plan which IMO has many flaws!

Kabuto will betray tobi, to the point he will spill all his plans to naruto and the others, then kabuto will leave, and then will be faced with EMS sasuke!

In which this will be EPIC, Kabuto Knowing his Life-exsistence is Over, spoiling tobi's plans for good, Then just facing his death to sasuke!

If that happends I would Love Kishi even more!

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Sasuke, joining forces to kill tobi?!?, hmm this may be a good theory, seeing that sasuke has no intentions with tobi as for now since he has EMS he just might due away with tobi himself thinking hes strong enough "but is that the case?!?"

Sasuke, stated many times that he has no loyalty intentions emotional intentions with leaf at all, so his best bet is too know tobi's zetsu operation, and then slaughter all of the 10,000 zetsu's to train out his EMS, then later slaughter kabuto (if he can), and then when tobi is in blood-lust he should leave the destruction of tobi to naruto!!!, which if naruto is worthy of fighting sasuke would kill tobi, and give the satafication to sasuke in the last battle!

Tobi, is really stupid, for one telling his intentions to the kage summit!, relying on kabuto to capture the 9 tails in which story>plot it wont happen, and mosty being cocky over his moon eye plan which IMO has many flaws!

Kabuto will betray tobi, to the point he will spill all his plans to naruto and the others, then kabuto will leave, and then will be faced with EMS sasuke!

In which this will be EPIC, Kabuto Knowing his Life-exsistence is Over, spoiling tobi's plans for good, Then just facing his death to sasuke!

If that happends I would Love Kishi even more!


Hmmm.. That actually good. As of now with Madara + Kabuto + EMS Sasuke + 10001 Zetsus + Edo Tensei Summons + 7 Tailed beasts, 5 Great villages are at the back seat now. They probably have no intel on Madara's plans, while Madara has got all the plans of enemy.

Sasuke turning tables again is the best way to realistically show 5 Great Villages > Madara's army. I won't like Naruto convincing/defeating everyone by himself to create the greatest PNJ in existence...

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tobi madara sees everything i doubt kabuto will betray him also didnt kabuto get a zetsu

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I think it would be cool if naruto was the one to defeat the 100,000 zetsu army. It would be living up to his fathers "yellow flash" title, since he was known to defeat armies by himself. I'm sure he never defeated an army that large, but then it would just lead to proof that naruto truly has surpassed him.

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I think it would be cool if naruto was the one to defeat the 100,000 zetsu army. It would be living up to his fathers "yellow flash" title, since he was known to defeat armies by himself. I'm sure he never defeated an army that large, but then it would just lead to proof that naruto truly has surpassed him.



lol :lol:

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Seems like Naruto doesnt have enough time nore experience to just leave his training, and just slaughter a whole army by himself (and if that did happend i would just quit naruto)

Sasuke EMS would be more narutal experience to him since he's in the pychological state at the moment, so i would rather see sasuke destroying the zetsu army, and then leaving an anger tobi to naruto in which if naruto is strong enough would give sasuke the satifaction of facing him on shinobi rule terms.

Kabuto will play a big role in naruto's destiny too, he would likely:
1.Give Naruto The scroll of imperial Summ.
2.Spill all the details on Tobi>Moon eye plan alike
3. Give the were abouts on harshirama's DNA material
4. Spoil more about the rinnegan>casket!

Kabuto will then leave to face EMS sasuke!
In term Tobi going to face full experience Naruto!

Naruto>Tobi, Sasuke>Kabuto!

After the Major Twist in the story, both ninja's will settle down. In trinaing for the final battle!

In the middle of this, i expect:

Yamato: Gaining More Power of Wood Style From, him infusing all of hashirama's DNA in him!

Gai: Recovering!

Naruto: Training-Pre Tobi Battle

Killer bee: Teaching

Sasuke EMS debute!

Kabuto's Death

Tobi: Pre-fight

The Back Up Team, That The Kage Summit Sent Out will Be IMO:

Neji

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Shikamaru

Choji

Sakura!

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I think it's going to be Tsunade's part in the fight. She IS an age-old veteran, one of the strongest and most respected shinobi alive and has seen many a fights in her lifetime. Plus it would be lame for Kishi to prove Konoha to be the strongest of the five nations yet make its Hokage look like a bimbo on the battlefield weighing the other Kage down or just being defensive backup :P

Also they mentioned Onoki having fought Madara for a reason. Him helping discover Madara's weakness would truly grant him the redemption he's looking for.


Also Naruto and Sasuke can't defeat all major characters of the series, that would be a bit too much :P I think Kishi will use that particular battle to show Tsunade's and mainly the Kage's worth and by equal measure show Madara's abilities, and who better to go all out with than the 5 strongest shinobi in the world? One thing is certain; its going to be one HELL of a show either ways! :D

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@ Narutohero

Your theory is very good....I thought at this too...but I didn't knew if I can post or not....but now you did it instead of me...But hey I am happy that my theory finally got here

@ Kakashi-San

I don't want to happen like you said...I just want to see more about Sasuke and Kabuto

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krishna.kumar wrote:
I would really love a plot twist in which Sasuke betrays Madara and joins Konoha to destroy Madara. I would love if he states that, like Itachi, his primary goal was also to defeat Madara and he set up the whole scenario like this with the sole purpose of defeating Madara.

Thats the worst case I've ever heard..


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I would really love a plot twist in which Sasuke betrays Madara and joins Konoha to destroy Madara. I would love if he states that, like Itachi, his primary goal was also to defeat Madara and he set up the whole scenario like this with the sole purpose of defeating Madara.

Thats the worst case I've ever heard..

I wouldnt say its the worst case possible, since this topic was made before Major tobi clashes were brought about, it really just shows the natural causes and effects between manga and reader.

I still like this theory krishna stated, i wouldnt think the plot twist of sasuke joining konoha would be in action, just the fact if tobi becomes too much of a challenge for naruto, sasuke could join forces for the sake of his final confrontation with naruto uzumaki.

Also look at the manga currently, anything is possible..

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I don't think I'd like Sasuke to suddenly pull an Itachi and been shown as a good guy all along, I wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to do it twice in the manga, especially with brothers. I don't personally think it would be very good writing. I do however think that Sasuke isn't completely evil and no doubt Naruto will change him, although I can't see him ever coming back to Konoha.

Best case scenario for me is that Sasuke redeems himself by sacrificing himself to save Naruto against Tobi or Kabuto, I think that would probably be the easiest way for Kishi to 'save' Sasuke.

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