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krishna.kumar
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Post subject: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:24 pm |
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The only person left from the original Akatsuki is Zetsu. So, Zetsu may be the only character who may know the subtle weaknesses that Madara possesses like Konan knew. Might be that, Kabuto-Oro knows the drawbacks, but we can't be sure.
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:54 pm |
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I think Sasuke will kill Madara and will go to fight with Naruto for last time in story 
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:37 pm |
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I think there will be a fight with someone or several people dying, but revealing the most important intel about Madara's general skills. On the other hand, guys like Fu and Torune found out about the basics really really quick. Hm by the way there is a vague possibility of Naruto knowing them... Kushina's story showed some things she actually couldn't really knew but if she did know them and told them to Naruto, he has some basic ideas already.
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:50 am |
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Roflkopt3r wrote: I think there will be a fight with someone or several people dying, but revealing the most important intel about Madara's general skills. On the other hand, guys like Fu and Torune found out about the basics really really quick. Hm by the way there is a vague possibility of Naruto knowing them... Kushina's story showed some things she actually couldn't really knew but if she did know them and told them to Naruto, he has some basic ideas already. There is also the possibility that sasuke turns sides again and gives massive intel to naruto and konoha. Sasuke is a lot of things, but one thing is isn't is a fool. I'm sure he pays extremely close attention to everything he sees madara do, just in case he has to fight him later on (as I'm guessing he expects to happen). Also sasuke now has EMS, so he would have a very intimate understanding of what a sharingan user on madara's caliber is capable of. However if sasuke doesn't turn sides there is the chance that naruto simply becomes capable of fighting on equal grounds. So far he seems ignorant to how uniquely his powers have been growing, he seems the only person aside from madara who is on the path towards becoming equal to the sage. There are plenty of incredibly strong ninja out there, but naruto's style is very much so working in the direction of gaining multiple "paths" as madara calls it. Personally though I feel like sasuke must have a major part to play in the downfall of madara. I don't expect kishimoto would let him die a villain, at least not without a heroic death like nagato.
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:01 pm |
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I would really love a plot twist in which Sasuke betrays Madara and joins Konoha to destroy Madara. I would love if he states that, like Itachi, his primary goal was also to defeat Madara and he set up the whole scenario like this with the sole purpose of defeating Madara.
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:14 pm |
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krishna.kumar wrote: I would really love a plot twist in which Sasuke betrays Madara and joins Konoha to destroy Madara. I would love if he states that, like Itachi, his primary goal was also to defeat Madara and he set up the whole scenario like this with the sole purpose of defeating Madara. Of course... no one would ever harm Sasuke for killing Danzou, the 6th Hokage. No one would ever mistrust Sasuke for attacking the Five Kage´s meeting. And finally no one would ever rather kill Sasuke for being a missingnin and betraying not only Konoha, but also the other 5 big ninja country´s..... No, seriously. I don´t think that this will ever happen. But maybe PnJ and a crying Naruto that screams out loud under his bedcover: "LEAAAVE SASSSUKEEEE ALOOOOOOOOONE!" could handle that Sasuke will be allowed to come back to Konoha.
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:54 pm |
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Uzumaki wrote: krishna.kumar wrote: I would really love a plot twist in which Sasuke betrays Madara and joins Konoha to destroy Madara. I would love if he states that, like Itachi, his primary goal was also to defeat Madara and he set up the whole scenario like this with the sole purpose of defeating Madara. Of course... no one would ever harm Sasuke for killing Danzou, the 6th Hokage. No one would ever mistrust Sasuke for attacking the Five Kage´s meeting. And finally no one would ever rather kill Sasuke for being a missingnin and betraying not only Konoha, but also the other 5 big ninja country´s..... No, seriously. I don´t think that this will ever happen. But maybe PnJ and a crying Naruto that screams out loud under his bedcover: "LEAAAVE SASSSUKEEEE ALOOOOOOOOONE!" could handle that Sasuke will be allowed to come back to Konoha. Itachi helped Konoha a lot and gave his life for Konoha. But, still, Itachi is tainted as a villain in the hearts of people of Konoha. When I meant "joins forces with Konoha", I never meant Konoha and other villages forgiving Sasuke. I meant "Sasuke" and "Konoha" having same aim. They fighting for the same cause and Sasuke sacrificing himself for the village like Itachi did. No one would ever understand Sasuke till the end, but he would be a hero in the hearts of "readers" like us. That's what I was telling. As far as Naruto is concerned, I don't find a reason why he won't yell "LEAAAVE SASSSUKEEEE ALOOOOOOOOONE!". After all, he is the best in that... 
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:51 pm |
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krishna.kumar wrote: Uzumaki wrote: krishna.kumar wrote: I would really love a plot twist in which Sasuke betrays Madara and joins Konoha to destroy Madara. I would love if he states that, like Itachi, his primary goal was also to defeat Madara and he set up the whole scenario like this with the sole purpose of defeating Madara. Of course... no one would ever harm Sasuke for killing Danzou, the 6th Hokage. No one would ever mistrust Sasuke for attacking the Five Kage´s meeting. And finally no one would ever rather kill Sasuke for being a missingnin and betraying not only Konoha, but also the other 5 big ninja country´s..... No, seriously. I don´t think that this will ever happen. But maybe PnJ and a crying Naruto that screams out loud under his bedcover: "LEAAAVE SASSSUKEEEE ALOOOOOOOOONE!" could handle that Sasuke will be allowed to come back to Konoha. Itachi helped Konoha a lot and gave his life for Konoha. But, still, Itachi is tainted as a villain in the hearts of people of Konoha. When I meant "joins forces with Konoha", I never meant Konoha and other villages forgiving Sasuke. I meant "Sasuke" and "Konoha" having same aim. They fighting for the same cause and Sasuke sacrificing himself for the village like Itachi did. No one would ever understand Sasuke till the end, but he would be a hero in the hearts of "readers" like us. That's what I was telling.As far as Naruto is concerned, I don't find a reason why he won't yell "LEAAAVE SASSSUKEEEE ALOOOOOOOOONE!". After all, he is the best in that...  I could seriously see this happen. All this whining from naruto´s side about sasuke is going way to far. They were never really close until he left konoha and said once that he think´s naruto is his friend. I personally don´t like the way theri relationship is going.But know for something about your post. Sound quite possibly. I think I just misunderstood you 
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:01 pm |
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I think out of self preservation and massive hatred for the Uchiha the kyuubi will give naruto the necessary intel which will allow him to beat madara.
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:32 pm |
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Sasuke, joining forces to kill tobi?!?, hmm this may be a good theory, seeing that sasuke has no intentions with tobi as for now since he has EMS he just might due away with tobi himself thinking hes strong enough "but is that the case?!?"
Sasuke, stated many times that he has no loyalty intentions emotional intentions with leaf at all, so his best bet is too know tobi's zetsu operation, and then slaughter all of the 10,000 zetsu's to train out his EMS, then later slaughter kabuto (if he can), and then when tobi is in blood-lust he should leave the destruction of tobi to naruto!!!, which if naruto is worthy of fighting sasuke would kill tobi, and give the satafication to sasuke in the last battle!
Tobi, is really stupid, for one telling his intentions to the kage summit!, relying on kabuto to capture the 9 tails in which story>plot it wont happen, and mosty being cocky over his moon eye plan which IMO has many flaws!
Kabuto will betray tobi, to the point he will spill all his plans to naruto and the others, then kabuto will leave, and then will be faced with EMS sasuke!
In which this will be EPIC, Kabuto Knowing his Life-exsistence is Over, spoiling tobi's plans for good, Then just facing his death to sasuke!
If that happends I would Love Kishi even more!
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:57 pm |
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Narutohero2 wrote: Sasuke, joining forces to kill tobi?!?, hmm this may be a good theory, seeing that sasuke has no intentions with tobi as for now since he has EMS he just might due away with tobi himself thinking hes strong enough "but is that the case?!?"
Sasuke, stated many times that he has no loyalty intentions emotional intentions with leaf at all, so his best bet is too know tobi's zetsu operation, and then slaughter all of the 10,000 zetsu's to train out his EMS, then later slaughter kabuto (if he can), and then when tobi is in blood-lust he should leave the destruction of tobi to naruto!!!, which if naruto is worthy of fighting sasuke would kill tobi, and give the satafication to sasuke in the last battle!
Tobi, is really stupid, for one telling his intentions to the kage summit!, relying on kabuto to capture the 9 tails in which story>plot it wont happen, and mosty being cocky over his moon eye plan which IMO has many flaws!
Kabuto will betray tobi, to the point he will spill all his plans to naruto and the others, then kabuto will leave, and then will be faced with EMS sasuke!
In which this will be EPIC, Kabuto Knowing his Life-exsistence is Over, spoiling tobi's plans for good, Then just facing his death to sasuke!
If that happends I would Love Kishi even more! Hmmm.. That actually good. As of now with Madara + Kabuto + EMS Sasuke + 10001 Zetsus + Edo Tensei Summons + 7 Tailed beasts, 5 Great villages are at the back seat now. They probably have no intel on Madara's plans, while Madara has got all the plans of enemy. Sasuke turning tables again is the best way to realistically show 5 Great Villages > Madara's army. I won't like Naruto convincing/defeating everyone by himself to create the greatest PNJ in existence...
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:15 pm |
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tobi madara sees everything i doubt kabuto will betray him also didnt kabuto get a zetsu
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:59 pm |
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I think it would be cool if naruto was the one to defeat the 100,000 zetsu army. It would be living up to his fathers "yellow flash" title, since he was known to defeat armies by himself. I'm sure he never defeated an army that large, but then it would just lead to proof that naruto truly has surpassed him.
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:24 pm |
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Hitori wrote: I think it would be cool if naruto was the one to defeat the 100,000 zetsu army. It would be living up to his fathers "yellow flash" title, since he was known to defeat armies by himself. I'm sure he never defeated an army that large, but then it would just lead to proof that naruto truly has surpassed him. lol 
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:22 pm |
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Seems like Naruto doesnt have enough time nore experience to just leave his training, and just slaughter a whole army by himself (and if that did happend i would just quit naruto)
Sasuke EMS would be more narutal experience to him since he's in the pychological state at the moment, so i would rather see sasuke destroying the zetsu army, and then leaving an anger tobi to naruto in which if naruto is strong enough would give sasuke the satifaction of facing him on shinobi rule terms.
Kabuto will play a big role in naruto's destiny too, he would likely: 1.Give Naruto The scroll of imperial Summ. 2.Spill all the details on Tobi>Moon eye plan alike 3. Give the were abouts on harshirama's DNA material 4. Spoil more about the rinnegan>casket!
Kabuto will then leave to face EMS sasuke! In term Tobi going to face full experience Naruto!
Naruto>Tobi, Sasuke>Kabuto!
After the Major Twist in the story, both ninja's will settle down. In trinaing for the final battle!
In the middle of this, i expect:
Yamato: Gaining More Power of Wood Style From, him infusing all of hashirama's DNA in him!
Gai: Recovering!
Naruto: Training-Pre Tobi Battle
Killer bee: Teaching
Sasuke EMS debute!
Kabuto's Death
Tobi: Pre-fight
The Back Up Team, That The Kage Summit Sent Out will Be IMO:
Neji
Rocklee
Shikamaru
Choji
Sakura!
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:00 pm |
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:32 am |
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@ Narutohero
Your theory is very good....I thought at this too...but I didn't knew if I can post or not....but now you did it instead of me...But hey I am happy that my theory finally got here
@ Kakashi-San
I don't want to happen like you said...I just want to see more about Sasuke and Kabuto
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:08 pm |
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krishna.kumar wrote: I would really love a plot twist in which Sasuke betrays Madara and joins Konoha to destroy Madara. I would love if he states that, like Itachi, his primary goal was also to defeat Madara and he set up the whole scenario like this with the sole purpose of defeating Madara. Thats the worst case I've ever heard..
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:08 pm |
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Hif wrote: krishna.kumar wrote: I would really love a plot twist in which Sasuke betrays Madara and joins Konoha to destroy Madara. I would love if he states that, like Itachi, his primary goal was also to defeat Madara and he set up the whole scenario like this with the sole purpose of defeating Madara. Thats the worst case I've ever heard.. I wouldnt say its the worst case possible, since this topic was made before Major tobi clashes were brought about, it really just shows the natural causes and effects between manga and reader. I still like this theory krishna stated, i wouldnt think the plot twist of sasuke joining konoha would be in action, just the fact if tobi becomes too much of a challenge for naruto, sasuke could join forces for the sake of his final confrontation with naruto uzumaki. Also look at the manga currently, anything is possible..
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Post subject: Re: How will Konoha know Madara's weakness ? Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:43 pm |
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I don't think I'd like Sasuke to suddenly pull an Itachi and been shown as a good guy all along, I wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to do it twice in the manga, especially with brothers. I don't personally think it would be very good writing. I do however think that Sasuke isn't completely evil and no doubt Naruto will change him, although I can't see him ever coming back to Konoha.
Best case scenario for me is that Sasuke redeems himself by sacrificing himself to save Naruto against Tobi or Kabuto, I think that would probably be the easiest way for Kishi to 'save' Sasuke.
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