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 Post subject: about tobi bieng uzumaki
 Post Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:02 am 
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i just got a though here and if it will prolly be long so if u wont read it dont answer plzz...


we have to all back to the uzumaki's clan exacution ! as we know so far is that no1 knows who killed the clan back then and there's no proof on who did it! all we know is that ppl feared there fuinjutsu's skills..

http://www.mangareader.net/93-54942-4/n ... r-500.html

so i can tbh only see one person doing all this and thats the real madara! and when he fougth with the leader of uzumaki! the leader joined force with him! for the reason it was he's first lost match! and he obayed what madara said! and if we look at it the timejutsu that tobi has is migth just another sealing jutsu like minato's just alot better!

now think about it! tobi has the same sealing jutsu as kushina had to controle the tailed beasts with! and tobi is keep hiding he's sharingan so i think he's not related to the so he have to hide it to not using to much chakra like kakkashi! proof on this when he fougth the konoha when he wasted their time for not getting to sasuke! he only showed it when zetsu came!!

and it also explains that he can live for soo long! i mean he has a knowlegde like only madara would know of and it seams he knows everything aswell and alot of the RS.... or he learned it from madara coz madara couldnt defeat him and offered him to join forces with him! and told him everything he knew!

and the reason why i though about this is i find it really wierd how he knows everything and how he perfected a jutsu that we must asume that its only uzumaki clan know of, and how he allways seams to cover he's sharingan away! if he was from the uchiha family i would expect him to go around and show it off now when there's war...

well ur free to add your thoughs just though i would share this with u

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here is the problem
I do not know what relations Tobi is to Madara he knew too much of an intimate knowledge of Madara fight with Hashirama. He knew that Mito could sense evil
He knows too much of an intimate knowledge of Konoha shinobi's he knew Kakashi right off the bat and his attacks, he Knew what clan Fuu and Torine was from and their attacks he knew of Danzo, that Danzo had Shisui eye the only thing all these shinobi have in common is that they were a part of the ANBU, this shows that whoever Tobi is he was a part of ANBU.
If Tobi is an Uzimaki he lived in Konoha and was a part of ANBU, but the question is how Danzo could not figure out who he was?

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 Post subject: Re: about tobi bieng uzumaki
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Bobby I think that you're wrong...If he was a part of ANBU....then Danzou should've known about him

@ Menma...it's quite possible to be happened like that

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AdyKyuubi wrote:
Bobby I think that you're wrong...If he was a part of ANBU....then Danzou should've known about him

@ Menma...it's quite possible to be happened like that

he could have faked his death to get out of ANBU, his ever presence mask shows that if he was to reveal his face he would be recognized

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bobbyscott wrote:
AdyKyuubi wrote:
Bobby I think that you're wrong...If he was a part of ANBU....then Danzou should've known about him

@ Menma...it's quite possible to be happened like that

he could have faked his death to get out of ANBU, his ever presence mask shows that if he was to reveal his face he would be recognized

Danzou knows all of his subordonates faces

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 Post subject: Re: about tobi bieng uzumaki
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AdyKyuubi wrote:
bobbyscott wrote:
AdyKyuubi wrote:
Bobby I think that you're wrong...If he was a part of ANBU....then Danzou should've known about him

@ Menma...it's quite possible to be happened like that

he could have faked his death to get out of ANBU, his ever presence mask shows that if he was to reveal his face he would be recognized

Danzou knows all of his subordonates faces

2 points

1 this is why tobi where a mask so he cannot be recognized

2 I think Tobi may before Danzo, but Danzo still may recognize him from pictures

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 Post subject: Re: about tobi bieng uzumaki
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Heres the thing.. Anbu and Roots are totally different organizations within konoha.

Anbu works with the kage or under the kage for protection and various mission that would distributed konoha's wealth.

Roots is the organization that differs from anbu in anyway shape and form, root members and danzou alike branch off from the kages ideals and create missions on their own behalf to benefit konoha's overall wealth. The mission may involve very harsh actions, but danzou afterall takes konoha's protection over his own.

I believe if tobi was in Anbu, danzou wouldnt have recognized him since he was doing his own thing with Hashirama cells, Izanagi and shuchii's MS. On the other hand, danzou knew all his roots members and branched their tounges with seals to forbid any information from being leaked.

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There's a thing: if Rinnegan is an evolved form of EMS, it should retain some of its superpowers (Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu, for example). Nagato wasn't able to use those because he wasn't an Uchiha. But what stops Tobi from using it?.. I guess the lack of chakra isn't the problem here. Maybe he just doesn't have ANY Uchiha blood in him! What do you think?..

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Phoenix wrote:
There's a thing: if Rinnegan is an evolved form of EMS, it should retain some of its superpowers (Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu, for example). Nagato wasn't able to use those because he wasn't an Uchiha. But what stops Tobi from using it?.. I guess the lack of chakra isn't the problem here. Maybe he just doesn't have ANY Uchiha blood in him! What do you think?..

This isn't the only thing...How does Tobi knows sealing jutsus that looks exactly like the ones the Uzumaki's used?

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allrigth guys this isnt about if tobi was an anbu so plz stay at topic els make another ;)

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menma wrote:
allrigth guys this isnt about if tobi was an anbu so plz stay at topic els make another ;)

I was on the topic..with my last post

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AdyKyuubi wrote:
menma wrote:
allrigth guys this isnt about if tobi was an anbu so plz stay at topic els make another ;)

I was on the topic..with my last post


i know i know wasnt talking to u specific hehe :P

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menma wrote:
AdyKyuubi wrote:
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allrigth guys this isnt about if tobi was an anbu so plz stay at topic els make another ;)

I was on the topic..with my last post


i know i know wasnt talking to u specific hehe :P

I'm glad about this

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 Post subject: Re: about tobi bieng uzumaki
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menma wrote:
allrigth guys this isnt about if tobi was an anbu so plz stay at topic els make another ;)

My response was not to say Tobi was an ANBU or ROOT it was to show that Tobi being an Uzumaki may not be the only answer, Kakashi was a part of ANBU and he picked up tricks that were unique to other nation. This shows that because you are good at some things it does not define who you are.
The jury is still out on Tobi being an Uzumaki, so until I see more evidence I will hold my answer.

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bobbyscott wrote:
menma wrote:
allrigth guys this isnt about if tobi was an anbu so plz stay at topic els make another ;)

My response was not to say Tobi was an ANBU or ROOT it was to show that Tobi being an Uzumaki may not be the only answer, Kakashi was a part of ANBU and he picked up tricks that were unique to other nation. This shows that because you are good at some things it does not define who you are.
The jury is still out on Tobi being an Uzumaki, so until I see more evidence I will hold my answer.


yeah true i just cant wait to see who he really is pfff xD

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Phoenix wrote:
There's a thing: if Rinnegan is an evolved form of EMS, it should retain some of its superpowers (Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu, for example). Nagato wasn't able to use those because he wasn't an Uchiha. But what stops Tobi from using it?.. I guess the lack of chakra isn't the problem here. Maybe he just doesn't have ANY Uchiha blood in him! What do you think?..


Well, Tobi used same rinengan Nagato used, maybe rinengan they hold wasnt evolved from EMS, but it may be created by some other means, or it may be original Rinengan from RS since it was never told that RS had Sharingan, just crossed my mind

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Valjavec wrote:
Phoenix wrote:
There's a thing: if Rinnegan is an evolved form of EMS, it should retain some of its superpowers (Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu, for example). Nagato wasn't able to use those because he wasn't an Uchiha. But what stops Tobi from using it?.. I guess the lack of chakra isn't the problem here. Maybe he just doesn't have ANY Uchiha blood in him! What do you think?..


Well, Tobi used same rinengan Nagato used, maybe rinengan they hold wasnt evolved from EMS, but it may be created by some other means, or it may be original Rinengan from RS since it was never told that RS had Sharingan, just crossed my mind

I like your theory.. no wonder we keep on seeing rikudou paths, maybe that was the extent of nagato's rinnegan. Your right val.. theres a major difference between Nagato and Madara's rinnegan

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Narutohero2 wrote:
Valjavec wrote:
Phoenix wrote:
There's a thing: if Rinnegan is an evolved form of EMS, it should retain some of its superpowers (Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu, for example). Nagato wasn't able to use those because he wasn't an Uchiha. But what stops Tobi from using it?.. I guess the lack of chakra isn't the problem here. Maybe he just doesn't have ANY Uchiha blood in him! What do you think?..


Well, Tobi used same rinengan Nagato used, maybe rinengan they hold wasnt evolved from EMS, but it may be created by some other means, or it may be original Rinengan from RS since it was never told that RS had Sharingan, just crossed my mind

I like your theory.. no wonder we keep on seeing rikudou paths, maybe that was the extent of nagato's rinnegan. Your right val.. theres a major difference between Nagato and Madara's rinnegan

And whose Rinnegan is stronger?...I keep thinking at this but I can't find an answer :sweat: :sweat:

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AdyKyuubi wrote:
And whose Rinnegan is stronger?...I keep thinking at this but I can't find an answer :sweat: :sweat:



the strongest rinnegan is madara's as we seen so far coz madara could keep using he's uchiha jutsu aswell nagato couldnt! :)

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And whose Rinnegan is stronger?...I keep thinking at this but I can't find an answer :sweat: :sweat:



the strongest rinnegan is madara's as we seen so far coz madara could keep using he's uchiha jutsu aswell nagato couldnt! :)

I kind of think that...but as we've seen Tobi is using Nagato's Rinnegan quite well

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