I see that this is discussed in so many threads so I thought that we should have thread about this.

So is Nagato without the Six Paths stronger than Pein Rikudou ?

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I think what made him so strong was his 6 paths, the whole deception and the fact that he could afford to make mistake because he wasn't actually paying the price for it. Also by using the other bodies he covers his main weaknesses i.e. Genjutsu, S/T, Most MS techniques etc.

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In my opinion both before Gedo Mazo Nagato and 6 Paths of Pain Nagato have their advantages and disadvantages.
But 6 Path of Pain are stronger, it might be seen a whole "life gives you lemons you do lemonade" kind of thing but Nagato came out Stronger from it.
If not then why would Madara make his own Paths to under power himself?

Also would be interesting a poll in this.

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Pein will destory nagato in whole, he created them for his personal warfare, so i guess most of his powers are demostrated between each of them.

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What powers Nagato is his Rikudo Paths. Without his six paths, he can never be that strong. With Rikudo Paths, Nagato benefits a lot like,

• He can afford to do mistakes.
• He gets near 360 degree vision with different vantage points of the whole battle field. This enables him to take correct decisions at the right time.
• He gets the obvious advantage of numbers.
• He becomes absolutely invincible, unless an extraordinary sensor can sense his location.

With his 7th Path, the Death God, we can say that he is manipulating 6 Edos from considerable distance. If he would have been at the battlefield directly, he would no doubt be stronger than each of the paths, but he would no longer be invulnerable like he was before...

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without the six paths nagato would never be able to destroy konoha, and besides that would be defetead easily by naruto, because he wouldn't be able to see at 360 degrees

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Is it possible for nagato to become complete and still activate Rikudou Paths ?

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Of course he can do that... He just needs to do the chakra rod insertion on the corpses. That's all. And ofcourse, impale himself with the chakra rods..

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I don't know that the rods are actually necessary after seeing madara's six paths.
http://manga.naruto-tv.com/naruto/545/5

None of them have chakra rods in their body likes the pain bodies.
http://manga.naruto-tv.com/naruto/544/15
http://manga.naruto-tv.com/naruto/545/5

After seeing this I can't help but believe the chakra rods only amplified a power of the rinnegan that already existed. Although either way nagato didn't seem to realize that fact (otherwise I'm sure he would have healed himself and fought with a similar formation to what madara now uses). So I guess my post doesn't really counter anything you said. . lol

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I'm sure Madara's Paths are actually Edo's that he's just manipulating. Maybe Kabuto gave them to him as a bargaining gift or something, it's just that the chara rod's played such a huge part in revealing the Path's secret for them to have been overlooked here. I mean either way they obviously have a big connection to Madara because they have his Sharingan and Rinnegan but I don't think they are being controlled in the same way.

I guess it's also plausible that the way Madara controls his Paths is just an improvement on what Nagato did. Madara did afterall say that Nagato knew virtually nothing of the Rinnegan's true power.

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I guess we'll see eventually

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Madara has control over 6th paths without rods and isnt madara partially complete rikudou ?

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After Nagato pwned KB and Naruto in KSM at once effortlessly... I'm thinking Nagato was way more formidable than Pain Rikudou.

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of course he was, he could use all pains in once in one body, leaving out flaws shown from Jariya vs Pain and Naruto vs Pain

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The only downside I see to using his own body is the effect of powerful genjutsu such as Tsukuyomi and Frog Song. Though his chakra control would be much better, and he might be able to break out... though unlikely, it'd be sick.

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